Lid getting blown off Armstrong case !
Should be an interesting show.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hamilton-says-he-saw-armstrong-use-epo
Tyler's confession:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tyler-hamiltons-letter-of-confession
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Permalink Reply by MonkeyBrook on -
Wow, the summer is heating up.....
First, all I would like to see if proof....please someone provide proof that Lance doped.
Second, Tyler Hamilton is a liar...he is proving it once again....this quote says it all...homeopathic medicine for depression? And now he confesses....because he is writing a book and going on 60 minutes...he will get his 5 minutes of fame and then go away.
He claimed the positive came as a result of homeopathic medicine he was taking for depression, before accepting an eight-year ban on June 11, 2009. He was later given a lifetime ban from WADA.
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Permalink Reply by Ripsaw on -
I'd like to see this thing come to a head before this year's Tour starts, so we can focus on the racing.
It doesn't look that good for Uniballer MB:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-investigation-progressing...
It's good to see Tyler getting this off his chest. Can't wait to read his book.
MonkeyBrook said:Wow, the summer is heating up.....
First, all I would like to see if proof....please someone provide proof that Lance doped.
Second, Tyler Hamilton is a liar...he is proving it once again....this quote says it all...homeopathic medicine for depression? And now he confesses....because he is writing a book and going on 60 minutes...he will get his 5 minutes of fame and then go away.
He claimed the positive came as a result of homeopathic medicine he was taking for depression, before accepting an eight-year ban on June 11, 2009. He was later given a lifetime ban from WADA.
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Permalink Reply by Hawk on -
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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Permalink Reply by Ripsaw on
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He didn't really have the option to come clean and go on with life.
He testified at a Grand Jury for 6 hours. Ya really think he lied to them ? He may make a couple of bucks selling his book, but he won't get rich and it's not like he's gonna be making a racing comeback. My bet is he's not lying.I doubt Uniballer is sleeping well at night.
Hawk said:
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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Permalink Reply by Hawk on
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On the contrary Rippy. I am sure Lance just looks at this like he did with Floyd. Just another banished ex-friend grasping at straws. No I think when this is all said and done it is just another He said - she said episode. Remeber it his hard to convict a guy from evidence obained by word of mouth from know liars. His Lawyers will eat this up. Like MB said, show me the positive and then we have a ball game. Until then I am willing to let sleeping dogs lie. The really disapointing thing for me is that I am a huge Tyler fan. We used to see him all the time riding around. It is just a shame.
Ripsaw said:He didn't really have the option to come clean and go on with life.
He testified at a Grand Jury for 6 hours. Ya really think he lied to them ? He may make a couple of bucks selling his book, but he won't get rich and it's not like he's gonna be making a racing comeback. My bet is he's not lying.I doubt Uniballer is sleeping well at night.
Hawk said:
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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Permalink Reply by KC on
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Tyler and Landis: Talking Trash for Cash. I feel bad for those guys. Glad our tax dollars are funding a witch hunt!
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"Every cyclist who appeared on 60 Minutes has in the past sworn that they never doped. Now, their stories have suddenly changed out of desire for money and the need for attention. Just as eager for money and attention, 60 Minutes has embraced these falsehoods uncritically and enthusiastically. But greed and a hunger for publicity cannot change the facts: Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the history of sports: He has passed nearly 500 tests over twenty years of competition. The time has long passed for this nonsensical investigation to stop, and for the enormous wasted resources to be re-directed to investigations that might actually protect Americans from wrongdoing."
-Mark Fabiani
Yes, I think Tyler and Floyd would lie to a grand jury, why wouldn't I? They lied to everyone in the world time and time again when they cried about their doping violations.
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Permalink Reply by MonkeyBrook on
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Rippy, seriously...is this hatred for Lance on your end or just an attempt to irk me, and other Lance supporters? Lots of wasted $$, no proof.... Oh, and no one has ever lied to a grand jury before...ha. Like Hawk said, "he said, she said".....I cant attest to whether or not Lance is sleeping at night but referring to him as uniballer is outright rude and disrespectful. Guy had cancer and you poking fun at him having one less testicle than you.?? Seriously man, you have big problems. I will buy Tylers's book as I am curious to see what he has to say...hoping he is putting some of the money towards some kind of charity....
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Permalink Reply by Ripsaw on
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Actually, the issue of whether Armstrong doped or not is a sidebar to the real meat of the investigation which revolves around international drug trafficing, money laundering, tax evasion, etc. Armstrong actually has much bigger problems than whether he cheated in the TDF or not. So, far the guys that have come forward are Andreu, Landis and Hamilton. I'll be real interested to hear Hincapie's reaction. Silence will speak volumes.
In terms of the testing, I'm sure you're aware that samples from Armstrong's 1999 TDF subsequently tested positive with the new testing technology.
Another interesting turn in this is the whether or not the UCI withheld positive test results on Armstrong in the Tour de Suisse.
If you want to see someone that's very uncomfortable, take a look at the teaser clip of Tyler's intyerview on the CBS website. I certainly hope he's got some peace of mind now.
Hawk said:On the contrary Rippy. I am sure Lance just looks at this like he did with Floyd. Just another banished ex-friend grasping at straws. No I think when this is all said and done it is just another He said - she said episode. Remeber it his hard to convict a guy from evidence obained by word of mouth from know liars. His Lawyers will eat this up. Like MB said, show me the positive and then we have a ball game. Until then I am willing to let sleeping dogs lie. The really disapointing thing for me is that I am a huge Tyler fan. We used to see him all the time riding around. It is just a shame.
Ripsaw said:He didn't really have the option to come clean and go on with life.
He testified at a Grand Jury for 6 hours. Ya really think he lied to them ? He may make a couple of bucks selling his book, but he won't get rich and it's not like he's gonna be making a racing comeback. My bet is he's not lying.I doubt Uniballer is sleeping well at night.
Hawk said:
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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Permalink Reply by Hawk on
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Ya I read about all the implications of the investigation. Again, you need hard evidence to get a conviction and word of mouth does not cut it in this country. Maybe Italy or France but not the good ol USA.
You riding the Willowdale race Sunday Rippy? Rode the couse last weekend. Those guys have done a nice job in there. The trails are in great shape.
Ripsaw said:Actually, the issue of whether Armstrong doped or not is a sidebar to the real meat of the investigation which revolves around international drug trafficing, money laundering, tax evasion, etc. Armstrong actually has much bigger problems than whether he cheated in the TDF or not.
In terms of the testing, I'm sure you're aware that samples from Armstrong's 1999 TDF subsequently tested positive with the new testing technology.
Another interesting turn in this is the whether or not the UCI withheld positive test results on Armstrong in the Tour de Suisse.
If you want to see someone that's very uncomfortable, take a look at the teaser clip of Tyler's intyerview on the CBS website. I certainly hope he's got some peace of mind now.
Hawk said:On the contrary Rippy. I am sure Lance just looks at this like he did with Floyd. Just another banished ex-friend grasping at straws. No I think when this is all said and done it is just another He said - she said episode. Remeber it his hard to convict a guy from evidence obained by word of mouth from know liars. His Lawyers will eat this up. Like MB said, show me the positive and then we have a ball game. Until then I am willing to let sleeping dogs lie. The really disapointing thing for me is that I am a huge Tyler fan. We used to see him all the time riding around. It is just a shame.
Ripsaw said:He didn't really have the option to come clean and go on with life.
He testified at a Grand Jury for 6 hours. Ya really think he lied to them ? He may make a couple of bucks selling his book, but he won't get rich and it's not like he's gonna be making a racing comeback. My bet is he's not lying.I doubt Uniballer is sleeping well at night.
Hawk said:
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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Permalink Reply by Ripsaw on
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Too old to race ! It's only about a 5 minute ride from my house and my next door neighbor designed the course and is helping with putting it on, so I'll try to make it down to watch.
Hawk said:Ya I read about all the implications of the investigation. Again, you need hard evidence to get a conviction and word of mouth does not cut it in this country. Maybe Italy or France but not the good ol USA.
You riding the Willowdale race Sunday Rippy? Rode the couse last weekend. Those guys have done a nice job in there. The trails are in great shape.
Ripsaw said:Actually, the issue of whether Armstrong doped or not is a sidebar to the real meat of the investigation which revolves around international drug trafficing, money laundering, tax evasion, etc. Armstrong actually has much bigger problems than whether he cheated in the TDF or not.
In terms of the testing, I'm sure you're aware that samples from Armstrong's 1999 TDF subsequently tested positive with the new testing technology.
Another interesting turn in this is the whether or not the UCI withheld positive test results on Armstrong in the Tour de Suisse.
If you want to see someone that's very uncomfortable, take a look at the teaser clip of Tyler's intyerview on the CBS website. I certainly hope he's got some peace of mind now.
Hawk said:On the contrary Rippy. I am sure Lance just looks at this like he did with Floyd. Just another banished ex-friend grasping at straws. No I think when this is all said and done it is just another He said - she said episode. Remeber it his hard to convict a guy from evidence obained by word of mouth from know liars. His Lawyers will eat this up. Like MB said, show me the positive and then we have a ball game. Until then I am willing to let sleeping dogs lie. The really disapointing thing for me is that I am a huge Tyler fan. We used to see him all the time riding around. It is just a shame.
Ripsaw said:He didn't really have the option to come clean and go on with life.
He testified at a Grand Jury for 6 hours. Ya really think he lied to them ? He may make a couple of bucks selling his book, but he won't get rich and it's not like he's gonna be making a racing comeback. My bet is he's not lying.I doubt Uniballer is sleeping well at night.
Hawk said:
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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Permalink Reply by Hawk on
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Look for the guys in the orange and tan "Hodad" shirts. Those are my boys. I am riding a sky blue Blur LTII. Not racing but will probably be there watching, cooking out and having a few brews with Woodstock and crew.
Ripsaw said:Too old to race ! It's only about a 5 minute ride from my house and my next door neighbor designed the course and is helping with putting it on, so I'll try to make it down to watch.
Hawk said:Ya I read about all the implications of the investigation. Again, you need hard evidence to get a conviction and word of mouth does not cut it in this country. Maybe Italy or France but not the good ol USA.
You riding the Willowdale race Sunday Rippy? Rode the couse last weekend. Those guys have done a nice job in there. The trails are in great shape.
Ripsaw said:Actually, the issue of whether Armstrong doped or not is a sidebar to the real meat of the investigation which revolves around international drug trafficing, money laundering, tax evasion, etc. Armstrong actually has much bigger problems than whether he cheated in the TDF or not.
In terms of the testing, I'm sure you're aware that samples from Armstrong's 1999 TDF subsequently tested positive with the new testing technology.
Another interesting turn in this is the whether or not the UCI withheld positive test results on Armstrong in the Tour de Suisse.
If you want to see someone that's very uncomfortable, take a look at the teaser clip of Tyler's intyerview on the CBS website. I certainly hope he's got some peace of mind now.
Hawk said:On the contrary Rippy. I am sure Lance just looks at this like he did with Floyd. Just another banished ex-friend grasping at straws. No I think when this is all said and done it is just another He said - she said episode. Remeber it his hard to convict a guy from evidence obained by word of mouth from know liars. His Lawyers will eat this up. Like MB said, show me the positive and then we have a ball game. Until then I am willing to let sleeping dogs lie. The really disapointing thing for me is that I am a huge Tyler fan. We used to see him all the time riding around. It is just a shame.
Ripsaw said:He didn't really have the option to come clean and go on with life.
He testified at a Grand Jury for 6 hours. Ya really think he lied to them ? He may make a couple of bucks selling his book, but he won't get rich and it's not like he's gonna be making a racing comeback. My bet is he's not lying.I doubt Uniballer is sleeping well at night.
Hawk said:
I can't see how this is any different from what Landis did last year. Like Floyd, Tyler is just grabbing the spot light and pushing an attempt to sell a book soon. I think that Tyler's confession is great and probably a huge weight off his shoulders but why sink everybody in his wake. Rumors are that he will also name others. The end result may be sinking USA cycling. I mean if everybody was doing as he states, then just admit your own faults and go on. Let the rest bear their own crosses.
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