I've been skiing a pass holder at SR for the past 15 years and I have never seen so many problems with the lifts as I have this year.

This past Saturday the tempest chair had a power failure (tempest chair was down earlier in the season) and later in that same day the North Peak Express had mechanical problems.  I got stuck on the same chair the previous weekend for 15-20 mins. Earlier in that day the Chondola was down for while.

Has anyone else experienced the same frustration that I have?

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I have not, exact opposite for me this year.  

Barker quad is down right now for mechanical as well. It seems more than usual this year for lift problems. 

At least you won't be stuck on Barker today or possibly this week.....

From the ski report - Barker down for maybe a WEEK:

"You will also notice that the Barker Mountain Express is not running today. A seal in the top bullwheel wore out pre-maturely and we're not able to run the lift without it. We have a new seal on the way and a team ready to replace it as soon as possible, but we expect the lift to be out of commission this week and potentially this weekend - stay tuned here for updates"

Can get frustrating - but not sure I'd request they skimp on maintenance or put something into service if it's questionable. I sometimes think about what he11 people went through on that SL chair last year - if a lift being down prevents that, then I'm all for it.

You are kidding right?  Please review SL lift track record first before you start listening to your buddies at the water cooler.  

Ripsaw said:

I've never heard more complaints about chairlifts at SR than I have this year....both in here and in person from SR skiers that have visited SL. Seems like you've got an aging fleet down there. It'll be interesting to see how quickly they all get replaced.

I would be interested to look at actual stats to see if it bears out, but sure seems like rippy may be on to something...casual observation and internet chatter definitely seem to suggest a trend upwards in amount of lift downtime at SR this season, MBs personal experience not withstanding.  Also seems to be a general rise in stories about chairlift failures all over the place, including most recently this one from West Virginia over the weekend.

Regarding the aging lift infrastructure, it is sort of interesting that if you look at the ave age of the lifts at SR and SL, they aren't that much different.  Using the info at the wiki page for each resort, SR lifts on average are 23 years old, and the lifts at SL are on average 30 years old....however if you take SL's tbar installed in 1956 out of the equation, SL ave lift age would be 27, so just a four year difference between the two which doesn't seem like all that much. And FWIW, 12 of SRs 15 lifts are over 20 years old...that is probably somewhat typical of most resorts that have been around 50+ years (for comparison, 9 of SLs 13 are over 20), but can't deny the lift fleet at both us getting old and may be getting more prone to mechanical issues despite ongoing maintenance.

This not a slam as I generally don't hold it against either place when something breaks, it happens (and hopefully doesn't result in a catastrophic failure).

Have any Sunday River lifts fallen and almost killed people?   I would say what happened at SL was catastrophic?, wouldnt you?  Antecdotal info on a board full of people complaining is not evidence.  I have almost 50 days in this year and ski all over the mt.  Every year has the same issues...I would be wiling to bet this year is within 1 standard deviation +/- any other year.  SL has have major major failures on two lifts in last few years...SR has had nothing even remotely close.  And any complaint about the Tempest lift is funny, that lift has never run properly. 


Zen Master said:

I would be interested to look at actual stats to see if it bears out, but sure seems like rippy may be on to something...casual observation and internet chatter definitely seem to suggest a trend upwards in amount of lift downtime at SR this season, MBs personal experience not withstanding.  Also seems to be a general rise in stories about chairlift failures all over the place, including most recently this one from West Virginia over the weekend.

Regarding the aging lift infrastructure, it is sort of interesting that if you look at the ave age of the lifts at SR and SL, they aren't that much different.  Using the info at the wiki page for each resort, SR lifts on average are 23 years old, and the lifts at SL are on average 30 years old....however if you take SL's tbar installed in 1956 out of the equation, SL ave lift age would be 27, so just a four year difference between the two which doesn't seem like all that much. And FWIW, 12 of SRs 15 lifts are over 20 years old...that is probably somewhat typical of most resorts that have been around 50+ years (for comparison, 9 of SLs 13 are over 20), but can't deny the lift fleet at both us getting old and may be getting more prone to mechanical issues despite ongoing maintenance.

This not a slam as I generally don't hold it against either place when something breaks, it happens (and hopefully doesn't result in a catastrophic failure).

Here are a few reminders.  No comparison between a mechanical / missing part and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jys_iGDpfw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TWRvlMDtrU

Nobody's complaining about SL lifts for a few reasons: 1.) they haven't seriously injured anyone this year (yet) 2: they haven't made national news for major malfunctions (yet) 3.) SL skiers expect the worst, so they have little to complain about.

Zenny slurping SL KoolAid yumyumyummy

We all know the history, and the major failures like we saw at Sugarloaf in 2010 and last year are rare, thankfully.  But that's not what what Bill Brown was talking about and I certainly wasn't trying to make this another SR vs SL weenie wagging contest with my comments.  But since you seemed to go right into denial mode in response to Bill and brought up the track records at both in response to rippy, I just thought it would interesting to compare data we DO have access to, because both places have aging lift infrastructures, and as complicated mechanical systems age they become more prone to mechanical issues, so it only stands to reason that this should start to be a factor at SR at some point...and in lieu of any actual data on lift downtime, I think that we've seen some evidence, anecdotal as it may be, of more lift downtime at SR this season than in previous seasons...and the 15-yr SR season pass holder that started this thread, for one, would seem to agree based on his own first hand experience.  Does anyone want or expect SR will experience Spillway or King Pine types of accidents?  Of course not!  Does that mean this topic isn't worthy of some discussion?  Well, I guess you don't think so but others, like the originator of this thread, may disagree on that.

iParty, slurping the SL koolaid?  Really?  How so?



MonkeyBrook said:

Here are a few reminders.  No comparison between a mechanical / missing part and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jys_iGDpfw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TWRvlMDtrU

So you hear complaints about SL chairlifts on a daily basis.

Does this mean you hear SR left complaints 2x per day?

This thread is the first lift related complaint I've heard this year...

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