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Q: What will Sunday River, Maine, look like in 2025?

A: Without snowmaking, the ski area likely won’t be able to open for more than 40 or 50 days of skiing by 2025. Most likely, if a ski area can’t operate more than 50 days, it can’t be viable.
That's only 8 years!
How many days would they have been open this season without snowmaking?

The article mentions the need for AUTOMATED snow making - so they can turn on/off the system quicker for those shorter cold times.  That's has to require a huge investment.

Time to move west, time has come.  

poe said:

The article mentions the need for AUTOMATED snow making - so they can turn on/off the system quicker for those shorter cold times.  That's has to require a huge investment.

If skiing was the only driving factor in your life moving west would be a no brainer. Although according to the doom and gloom folks its only a mattwr of time til the west melts too, and they arent invested in snowmaking.

Make sure you get a house with a guest bedroom.

Not to mention, the West is a drier climate and landscape and water use rights are already a huge issue.  They might be able to install the system, but would they have water rights access to make enough to cover a majority of their terrain?

That was an interesting one liner on Sunday River.  Not sure why they singled that out, been decades that without snowmaking we'd have no season.  Pretty sure why they put in the first parts of a system when the area was still just T-Bars.

Another interesting comment I thought was the reduction in energy used by new guns then in another saying we now use more air and less water (what??  The whole idea of Low-E guns is same amount of water to make same amount of snow with a heck of a lot less air focusing on nozzle tech to nucleate).  

Interesting article but I have some serious questions.  Powder has not impressed me lately with their writing.  I have a feeling these answers were edited to hell to spin the story.  Too many things seem to conflict for me or be off from reality.  But still, the ability to make tons of snow in narrowing windows is a valid position.  Still waiting for the increased water push at SR, I am told it is still in the near term plans.

That was my version of sarcasm. West is great place to visit but I won't be moving there anytime soon. Like you said skiing isn't only factor. And I haven't found anywhere to "Nosh" out there.

Wheelie said:
If skiing was the only driving factor in your life moving west would be a no brainer. Although according to the doom and gloom folks its only a mattwr of time til the west melts too, and they arent invested in snowmaking.

Make sure you get a house with a guest bedroom.
Agreed. I found zero value in that article. Skiing is going nowhere and global warming is a made up phenomenon. As evidenced by record snow across US this year.



MachSki said:

Not to mention, the West is a drier climate and landscape and water use rights are already a huge issue.  They might be able to install the system, but would they have water rights access to make enough to cover a majority of their terrain?

That was an interesting one liner on Sunday River.  Not sure why they singled that out, been decades that without snowmaking we'd have no season.  Pretty sure why they put in the first parts of a system when the area was still just T-Bars.

Another interesting comment I thought was the reduction in energy used by new guns then in another saying we now use more air and less water (what??  The whole idea of Low-E guns is same amount of water to make same amount of snow with a heck of a lot less air focusing on nozzle tech to nucleate).  

Interesting article but I have some serious questions.  Powder has not impressed me lately with their writing.  I have a feeling these answers were edited to hell to spin the story.  Too many things seem to conflict for me or be off from reality.  But still, the ability to make tons of snow in narrowing windows is a valid position.  Still waiting for the increased water push at SR, I am told it is still in the near term plans.

Robin from Techno Alpin is a good guy but the Al Gore of snowmaking. Tries to scare you into buying automated systems which are costly as can be, just as hard if not harder to maintain the equipment, a lot more electrical work, and still takes a couple guys to check the guns. It was a bit of a blow to throw in Sunday River when TA has been trying to push their guns and automation east. And you can't make powder out of any current gun?! That's not true. And snowmaking would be a huge waste of money if the goal was to make powder all the time and not focus on the longevity of the snow
All around ridiculous article. It got posted to a snowmaking Facebook group and I had called out the errors and flaws. Then whoever posted the article didn't like the flaws being pointed out and deleted the post so no one could see

^And there we have it folks^

Don't get me wrong, his systems are incredibly high tech and impressive!! In Europe automation has been working like a dream. For the east, we need a combination of everything it seems. Having a couple automated trails would be awesome. Set up your main trails that need the most run time and resurfacing on auto so that start and stop is quicker but also we have more time to focus on the more challenging trails.

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